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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Groups allowed and not Allowed Sharing of their Releases. Reply with quote

Hello!

Actually, I wanna refer this matter to Ruka-sama herself. But she rarely online and never bother to check her PM. So I will just post it here and let the mdoerators decide (Or if Ruka-sama read this by any chane, then that would be great!)

As far as I know, st_owly, Eien and Ruka-sama are yaoi fans and minna-san should be aware of yaoi scanlator groups's rules. Some of them don't allow redistribution of their releases so I kinda think that maybe we should make a list of groups who allowed and not allowed sharing of their scanlations as to respect their policy.

Blissful Sin - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on FAQ.

Boys X Boys Love - ALLOW if
-follow their conditions

Liquid Eros (Biblo Eros and Liquid Passion) - ALLOW if
-upload releases a week after their release.
-not on Megaupload

Bliss - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on FAQ.

Atlantis Dream - ALLOW
-Inactive.

Datenshi Blue - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on FAQ.

Hochuuami
- ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on their Usage Policy.

Forever-More - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on FAQ.

Kira-Kira - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on their Bio at their LJ.

Nakama - ALLOW if
-upload releases 3 days after their release.

Dangerous Pleasure
- ALLOW

Loveless - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on FAQ.

mochi*mochi - ALLOW
-Disbanded.

Eternal Dream - ALLOW
-Can use their links.

Aarinfantasy - ALLOW if
-Upload releases 3 days after their released.
-credit them
-no erasing credit pages or rename the files

NoDeadline - ALLOW if
-follow their rules.

Dork Love Scans - ALLOW if
-follow their rules based on FAQ.

PresenceDear - ALLOW if
-no distributing of the original "Waltz with a Black Cat"

Scan-Clan - ALLOW if
-files upload on Megaupload (Option)
-credit them (link to their website with banner)

Storm in Heaven -NOT ALLOW

Fushichou - NOT ALLOW

To thank their hardwork in bringin us yaoi goods, I think it's necessary to follow their rules. I hope this matter can be put into consideration.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea, I always try and respect a group's rules, failing that my policy is "don't remove the credits"

even though I think not letting people redistribute at all is stupid...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My policy is, "Beggars don't choose" ^____^

I used to download mangas from mangatraders and most of the files's name were changed and credit pages removed. I only realized sometime later that that was wrong, so I redownloaded from the groups's website itself. I don't think it is stupid cause people tend to remove the credit pages when redistribution. That's not fair for the group after all their hardwork in making them.

BUT! I totally agree on redistribution if the groups's files are only available on IRC cause I can never get access into it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get stuff from mangatraders, and it's usually pretty good for credits etc, but I suppose it depends on who uploads it. I certaintly don't remove credits cause I don't think it's fair, and it's especially wrong to try and pass it off as your own work...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I hated it most when the manga is not separated into chapters. The whole pictures in the same folder is really annoying.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, I hated it most when the manga is not separated into chapters. The whole pictures in the same folder is really annoying.


Ah that's never really bothered me, cause I read straight from the .zip files, so it's actually easier I find
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I agree that if the yaoi scanlator group doesn’t want their releases on other sites than we should try our best to respect that. but I second that it's annoying when they have IRC >.<

By the way, did you want a list (like the one you made) to be pinned in the "Shounen-ai/yaoi Manga" section?

I suppose... to make a difference it would need to be added to the guidelines in the "Want to help uploading? Read here how you can!"...

But that is sort of creating a new rule, and that can only Ruka decide.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

st_owly wrote:
Ah that's never really bothered me, cause I read straight from the .zip files, so it's actually easier I find


I prefer it to be separated, so that I know how many chapters in there.

Eien wrote:
By the way, did you want a list (like the one you made) to be pinned in the "Shounen-ai/yaoi Manga" section?


That's what I plan in the first place. But it's really up to Ruka-sama to decide. All the groups in the list is all that I get replied from. There are still much more out there.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KuroTenshi wrote:
st_owly wrote:
Ah that's never really bothered me, cause I read straight from the .zip files, so it's actually easier I find


I prefer it to be separated, so that I know how many chapters in there.

Eien wrote:
By the way, did you want a list (like the one you made) to be pinned in the "Shounen-ai/yaoi Manga" section?


That's what I plan in the first place. But it's really up to Ruka-sama to decide. All the groups in the list is all that I get replied from. There are still much more out there.


Yeah it is up to Ruka in the end. A list is a good idea though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry for not reading this sooner....

aniways, yes I agree that we should abide by the rules of the scanlators. However I'm not the only one uploading yaoi manga, and it is simply impossible for me alone to check every file for credits and such.

For now I suggest that I'll start a new pinned topic concerning the scanlation groups.

I'll try to go over the series we already have and delete the series that are by 'no sharing scanlation groups'.

However I would greatly appreciate it if someone can sort out for me what exactly are the rules for the different groups....

terms like "- ALLOW if -follow their rules based on their Usage Policy." still doens't say a lot about what they convey.
So if you can actually make a list with what these rules are per group, then it will be clearly what is allowed and what not.

Please post that here, and as soon as that's done, I'll start the topic.

sounds like a plan?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes sure. I will only add groups from whom i get replied from. There are still much more out there, but it's impossible for me to ask every each of them. So it did be nice if someone could help out. Also if you want me to help you with deleting or so, I can always volunteer.

Basic rules: (I don't think I need to list it out for each group)
-Credits them (Link to their website)
-No change in file's name or content
-Use your own link
-No sharing of licensed materials

Aarinfantasy - ALLOW
-Upload releases 3 days after

Attractive Fascinante - NOT ALLOW

Blissful Sin - ALLOW
-Upload releases 3 days after

Bliss - ALLOW

Boys x Boys Love - ALLOW

Dangerous Pleasure - ALLOW

Datenshi Blue - ALLOW
-Upload releases 3 days after

Dork Love Scans - ALLOW

Eternal Dream - ALLOW
-Feel free to use their links ^___^

Forever-More - ALLOW
-Do not host chapters of a licensed project
-Don't have to link to them

Fushichou - NOT ALLOW

Half-Baked Scanlations - ALLOW

Hochuuami - ALLOW
-Must use this format when posting;
Scanlation by hochuuami (link it)

manga info:
mangaka -
isbn -

staff credit:
scanner -
translator -
editor -
qcer -


Kira-Kira - ALLOW
-Upload releases 2 days after

LiquidEros (aka Biblo Eros and Liquid Passion) - ALLOW
-Upload releases a week after
-Upload on different servers other than Megaupload (Option)

Loveless - ALLOW
-Upload releases 4 days after

mochi*mochi - I'm not sure cause they have disbanded.

Nakama - ALLOW
-Upload releases 3 days after

NoDeadline - ALLOW

PresenceDear - ALLOW
-No distributing the original "Waltz with a Black Cat"
-use English titles

Scan-Clan - ALLOW
-Upload on Megaupload (Option)
-Attach their banner

Storm in Heaven - NOT ALLOW
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